Impact Gathering: Funding & Growing Your Impact Business

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On September 18th, Impact Boom and Mumma Got Skills hosted the fifth panel for Impact Gathering: Funding and Growing Your Impact Business. Impact Gathering is a 6-part webinar series of Candid Conversations With Women In Impact-Led Business.

Panelists Anna Guenther, Belinda Morrissey, Lisa Siganto and Camille Socquet-Clerc joined Tom Allen to speak about the current issues surrounding being a female with strong impact, with the particular focus on funding and growing impact-led enterprises.

 

The Panelists

Anna Guenther
Founder, PledgeMe

Anna Guenther is the co-founder and Chief Bubble Blower of PledgeMe, New Zealand's first crowdfunding platform. Since launching 8 years ago, over 1,500 creative, community and entrepreneurial campaigns have raised over $50million through PledgeMe. PledgeMe was the first licensed platform to offer equity crowdfunding in New Zealand, and one of the first in Australia. 

PledgeMe has stated impact goals, aiming to have the funding that comes through our platforms represent the countries that we're in (eg. 50% female founders, 15% indigenous, 32% in the regions). Anna has also worked for the New Zealand Government, MIT and Harvard, and completed her Masters in Entrepreneurship with a focus on crowdfunding.

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Belinda Morrissey
CEO, English Family Foundation

Belinda Morrissey is the CEO of the English Family Foundation, a private foundation whose vision is to support transformational change in our world through the growth and development of social entrepreneurs and social businesses. With deep experience within the Australian social enterprise sector and an extensive leadership background in both corporate and not for profit organisations spanning three continents, Belinda works closely with both social enterprises and the broader ecosystem to develop and support a shared vision for delivering social outcomes. Belinda also has a particular focus on exploring the role of philanthropy as catalytic capital in developing the sector towards scalable investment to escalate social change. 

With many years’ experience in both Australian and international grantmaking Belinda is passionate about mobilising her skills to encourage the development of the for-purpose sector within Australia. Belinda holds several not for profit board positions – she is currently on the Boards of ActionAid Australia and White Box Ventures and is on the Advisory Board of the Social Impact Hub. 

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Lisa Siganto
Chair, ImpaQt Qld & White Box Enterprises

Lisa Siganto is Executive Chairman at ImpaQt QLD, Chairman and Co-Founder of White Box Enterprises, Director of Cape York Partnership and Founder of ShoreBirds. Lisa is also the Managing Director and Lisa Siganto Consulting.

Lisa is all about supporting, investing in or creating social impact and large scale employment focussed social enterprises through roles of Chairman, Board Director, Committee Chair, interim CEO, Executive Director, Partnership Broker, Project Manager, Consultant or Mentor. 

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Camille Socquet-Clerc
Founder, Bloom Impact Investing

Camille Socquet-Clerc is the founder of Bloom Impact Investing, an early-stage company on a mission to build a carbon-free economy that allows people and the planet to thrive. Camille's mission is to empower people to participate in the clean energy transition. Her startup Bloom Impact Investing helps people invest in climate solutions and learn about sustainable finance and impact investing so that they can build their wealth while making a difference.

Camille also works for EnergyLab as a Communication Manager. EnergyLab is Australia's largest cleantech startup accelerator and network dedicated to the clean energy transition. Camille helps connect talented cleantech founders to the mentors, advisors, partners, peers, and investors they need to succeed.

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Highlights from the Panel

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[Tom Allen] - It'd be great to learn more about your all of your backgrounds. Anna, let’s start with you. What led to your passion in social enterprise and crowdfunding?

[Anna Guenther] - My name is Anna, and I started my company out of frustration. I was a government worker who decided to go back and do a Master’s degree in entrepreneurship and was really excited by crowdfunding. I ended up doing a thesis on crowdfunding, and as part of that I said, "well, why don't I just start this thing?" I think the reason I cared so much about it was because I had been a grant administrator deciding who should get funded or not. I thought it was really dumb that I was making those decisions. I got really excited by the idea of technology allowing people's communities to decide whether they should be funded or not. I just got started, and what we originally created looked really bad. It's evolved a lot since we first launched.

I think that's one of the biggest lessons learned along this journey, is that you have to love the problem you're solving more than the solution you've created, because it's going to change as soon as people start using it.

Especially if you have no money to start with and you have a really bad design. That's really where it got started. It was eight years ago, and it's just been growing ever since then, but it's a constant of highs and lows.

Thanks very much Anna. You have great international experience too, from starting in New Zealand and then coming over to Australia and launching PledgeMe as well. Now you're back in New Zealand and a little bit restricted by COVID, but you have great experience.

Lisa, can you please tell us a bit about what led you on your journey into the impact investing space?

[Lisa Siganto] - Thanks Tom. As the oldest here, I think I could spend the next two hours rambling! But where I am right now is we're building an impact fund and we're building it because there is a gap in the market of providing the right funding for start-up ventures in the for-purpose space. It's not necessarily that I'm totally passionate about finance and funding.

However, I thought back, and it's a fundamental that I'd really encourage everybody to not avoid, and to take on and to learn about and feel comfortable about, because it's really important for all your businesses. If you're subcontracting that off to somebody else, then you're missing major stuff.

How I got into it was I really loved maths at school a long time ago. At that time, the only thing to do next was to teach maths, which I didn't want to do so I did engineering. But that didn't teach me anything about finance and funding. I went off to Harvard Business School and I was literally on the plane from London to Boston and I was learning accounting for the first time in the book beforehand. I found myself in classes, which were really exciting with wall street bankers and stuff I knew nothing about at the age of 25. But it taught me the basics, which I've had ever since, about cashflow modelling, valuation, and forecasting. everybody in their business needs that.

Also, it taught what's the right funding and finance at the time. From there, I ended up doing strategy consulting, which was not banking or finance, but I've always had that fundamental that you can't do a strategy if you don't have it linked to finance. I got into social enterprise and now profit-for-purpose. It's just one of those fundamental basics that we can't let other people do for us. Because if you don't understand it, then you're going to lose the right direction for your company.

Camille Socquet-Clerc with the 2020 Elevate+ Alumni.

Camille Socquet-Clerc with the 2020 Elevate+ Alumni.

We could chat all day about all the other experiences that you have really learnt over the years, Lisa.

Belinda as the CEO of English Family Foundation you have great expertise in philanthropy. What is it that led you down that path and why such a passion for social enterprise?

[Belinda Morrissey] - Thanks Tom. My background after university (where I did economics, because I was fascinated by the business model) is I went into international banking and asset management, which took me through a few different countries and the highlights that come with highfalutin asset management. When I was in London, I just really kind of woke up one day and went, “this is actually not what I want to be doing, and this does not align with my values.” I think that at that point in time, when you look at changing careers, that's a really interesting time to self-reflect and try and get to understand yourself and understand your strengths and your weaknesses. I always knew that I wanted to do something with a better purpose, but I'm not a front-line worker. At that point, one of the clients that I won for the asset house that I worked for was the Community Foundation.

I just went, "oh my God. That is so brilliant, because it was logical. Here's money, here's organisations that need it. You match it up, I can do that!" It ticked all the things that I felt that I could achieve.

I went back to Australia and studied philanthropy down in Swinburne, in Melbourne, which often does make people wonder that you can actually study philanthropy, but you can and it's a very important skillset. I think the sector itself is now becoming a much higher level of professionalisation, which is really exciting in itself. I've been in philanthropy ever since. I was absolutely privileged and blessed to land on my feet and work with Alan English at the English Family Foundation. He's a self-made entrepreneur and incredible man, and we both believe that if we really want to shift the dial on outcomes in Australia, we need to think differently. There is a space for charity, absolutely.

But we had in Australia, for so long, just taught the sector to jump through these hoops and change will happen, and it wasn't happening. For us, the concept of social enterprise, using business in a more sustainable way to create these outcomes that we were all looking for in this just and equitable society that we all want to move towards, was just logical.

Being a small family foundation, I had the privilege of being able to sort of pivot and really work towards where the gaps in the social enterprise sector are. I think that's been the joy of the journey, really working closely with the sector and trying to work out where we as a philanthropy organisation can best add value and try and break down some of those power imbalances that are inherent in the system.

It's been a great journey Belinda. The sector is hugely grateful for the support of the English Family Foundation. There's been a lot of work being done by the foundation in support of the sector, and we recognise that.

Let’s head to Camille. Camille, what is it that led you to recently start Bloom Impact Investing? Tell us more about it.

[Camille Socquet-Clerc] - Well, I relate to Belinda actually, because there was a point in my career where what I was doing didn't align with my values. My background is in marketing and business, and I was on a trajectory to have a lucrative eCommerce and digital marketing career. At some point, I couldn't find the fulfilment that I was after, and I'm really passionate about climate change. I think it is the biggest challenge that we are facing right now, that has so many ramifications for all of us, from a social and environmental perspective. I couldn't reconcile not putting my skills towards solving this challenge. I joined an accelerator called Energy Lab, where I was supporting FinTech and clean energy start-ups, and I thought, ‘this is great. I'm going to help solve the climate crisis!’

But I quickly realised that we had all the solutions at our fingertips, and the issue wasn't really technical. It was really a problem of finance. This is how I fell into it. I'm not passionate about finance. I wasn't passionate about finance when starting Bloom, but now I really am, because I see the power and the potential for change in it.

Bloom was created to support our transition towards a clean energy and sustainable world. Essentially helping tomorrow's businesses to scale with impact investing.

It's going to be good to follow your journey as it advances Camille. There has been such great development until now, even in the last six months or so alone. Thanks for sharing that.

We’ll cut back to Anna, because you have worked with a lot of different impact-led businesses and ventures over these eight or so years with PledgeMe. Many of them are female-led, and you have spoken quite a bit in the past about the success of a range of these different women-led businesses that have been using your platform. I'm keen to hear you speak about these businesses or founders and what it was that made them successful in their campaigns or attracting finance?

[Anna Guenther] - It's really interesting to look at crowdfunding as actually being one way to make funding more accessible for groups that might traditionally struggle.

What we've seen through our platform is around 60% of the campaign founders are women. When you look at traditional venture capital where it's 3%, we're doing really well.

I think one of the reasons for that is really that the way we operate in the crowdfunding space is it's all about activating your own crowd. Often these founders have communities that support what they do and really get their mission. One example of a non-profit that did very well for us was a woman named Brianne West. She started a company called Conscious and Concentrated, and when she first started, she was at university. She lost a pitch competition and decided that in order to raise the capital that she needed, she was going to go to a crowd of customers and raise the money to go from her home kitchen into a factory. Through that crowdfunding campaign she raised $200,000 in two weeks, which was her maximum goal, and 90% of those investors were current customers.

It was really her community that got onboard with her and they got on board because she was making a stated impact. She wants to reduce plastic waste and she wanted to stop a million bottles from going to landfill by 2020.

She has since then stopped 6 million bottles from going to landfill by 2020, 9 million bottles up until last week, and her company went from I think $100,000 in revenue when she raised through us, to $10 million in revenue last year. She is nailing it. But she's nailing it while having a really clear impact goal, while publicly stating that not only is she doing this environmental work, but it's either 20% of profit or 5% of revenue goes directly back into funding and environmental work in the community. She's just amazing. On the face of it, when she first launched, she lost her pitch competition, traditional investors told her they weren't going to invest it because it was just unrealistic, and now she's the fourth fastest growing company in New Zealand last year. 

Anna Guenther during a PledgeMe celebration.

Anna Guenther during a PledgeMe celebration.

Incredible story. I imagine being able to hit a lot of those brick walls and push past them, and the resilience needed even in a company that seems to be growing so positively requires a certain type of mindset. Is there any one particular quality that you think is consistent across all the founders that you've worked with?

I think it's just determination. You can get past the issues, because there are so many all the time, and just figure out how to solve a problem. Sometimes, that means doing things differently, and sometimes that means just doing the thing that you think is right. Even if traditional perspectives tell you it's not. I think that's especially important in the social enterprise space, where often we come up against perspectives that try to tell us that we can't do social and commercial at the same time. I completely disagree.

Great insights Anna, and thanks for sharing that story.

Belinda, as we mentioned, you've got deep experience in the philanthropic space, and I'm keen to hear a little bit more about what you've seen in your journey around female-led businesses accessing philanthropy and different types of finance. Anna's just provided us with some interesting stats there, in terms of just 3% that were accessing typical venture capital. I'm sure you can really add to that from the philanthropic lens. 

[Belinda Morrissey] - Thanks Tom. I guess the challenge for social enterprises within the philanthropic field of funding is that philanthropy can only fund charitable gift deductible recipient organisations, DGR1 organisations. I don't think we've ever done the stats on the percentage of social enterprises in Australia that are DGR1 versus profit for purpose, but colloquially, we've always thought it was only at about the 30% mark. Therefore, for us as a philanthropic foundation, funding into social enterprise has been challenging shall we say, but not impossible. I think that's interesting on your 60% stat Anna, because I went through the last five years’ worth of our own grant making towards social enterprises, specifically just those social enterprise grants that we've made over the last five years.

63% were to women-led social enterprises, 33% were to male, and then about 4-5% were to where there was a joint male and female co-founder.

[Anna Guenther] - Not to interrupt, but as Belinda and I talked beforehand, it's 60% in our pipeline of profit for purpose businesses which are women.

[Belinda Morrissey] - There you go, the magical number for some strange reason. I guess the issue for philanthropy is that you can access grant funding if you have DGR1, or corporate investment as an impact investment and philanthropy is only a very small part of the pie. But I think it's a really interesting part of the pie, because it's very much less risk averse and it can go for those really interesting catalytic capital types, of prove the pilot and get government on board once that's up and running. I think there is no hard and fast data in philanthropy around the gender issue. Obviously, gender lending in grant making is a really big issue, but that's more about the recipients, the actual community that you're benefiting, being women and children led.

There was a study done in 2018 on grants organisations through our community, and it said that there was no bias, that philanthropy in Australia assessed grants on the sectoral issue rather than the gender issue.

Lisa Siganto, Belinda Morrissey, Carlie Dole, Tom Allen and other Australian delegates during SEWF 2019 with the Australian Ambassador, Peter Doyle, in Ethiopia.

Lisa Siganto, Belinda Morrissey, Carlie Dole, Tom Allen and other Australian delegates during SEWF 2019 with the Australian Ambassador, Peter Doyle, in Ethiopia.

I think that that pretty much reflects what I've seen, certainly amongst the cohort that I've been working with, that a lot of philanthropy has a very sector driven approach. They might be passionate about homelessness. They might be passionate about zero waste, all of those sorts of issues.

Therefore, all of those applications from the grant point of view or from an impact investing point of view are assessed on the actual impact that they're making. I think what we have to also think about is within the grant making world and grant seeking world, traditionally it's a very female dominated environment. Whilst the trustees are still, shall we say, not female-led necessarily, but the initial gatekeepers are often women, and women who really are there because they really care. I think that resonates quite a lot on this issue rather than whether it's come from a male or a female. I think that that's quite different from a granting point of view than from an impact investing point of view.

In Australia, philanthropy has just started dipping its toe in. There's been some fantastic impact investors, but it was really interesting I thought, Philanthropy Australia did some research in May that was posted in the COVID philanthropic response. It was interesting to see that of philanthropy across Australia, 7% said that they were partly doing impact investing, but 23% said that they were considering it and looking at their options. I know that 70% said they weren't, but that's still an incredible increase. That's over 30% then that are potentially interested and looking for opportunities.

I think that of itself speaks volumes. Perhaps a bit later, we can get down into some of the issues around how to approach philanthropy on that side.

Belinda Morrissey talking during an Impact Boom Breakfast Event in 2019.

Interestingly, both of those percentage figures, both Lisa and Belinda provided were between that 60% mark. For the first two years of our Elevate+ Accelerator Program, 68% of the participants were female-led, and that was through competitive application. Gender played no issue as a deciding factor of who would really come through. It dropped a little bit in that third year, in the cohort of which Camille took part. But we've largely seen that a lot of these social entrepreneurs are female. Belinda mentioned impact investing a little bit, and Lisa, this is really your specialty and an interesting stat coming through there too, so let's talk a little bit more about impact investment.

For our listeners, how does impact investment differ to traditional investment, and what interesting opportunities have you seen for women in the space?

[Lisa Siganto] - Thanks Tom. Impact investment is growing around the world. We're a little bit behind in Australia, so it gives lots of opportunities. The definition of it is important because it's basically that there's financial returns plus social and or environmental return. These days, it's not an expectation. It can be, but it's not an expectation that you're going to forgive the financial returns.

It's an expectation that fantastic long-term sustainable organisations that are looking after their stakeholders will be long-term and sustainable because they've got a social impact as well, or an environmental impact.

What it means for our founders is that it's a new market, it's coming our way. There aren't many funds for start-ups, which is why we're starting our ImpaQt Fund. But this resonates very much with female founders, because a lot of female founders do want to produce something that has not only financial returns. We can go through all the psychology of why, but there's a few organisations in Australia that are pushing this really well. SHEEO, which is looking at how the venture capital system for women doesn't work for whatever reason; they're creating a different type of system for women supporting women. I encourage everybody to go with that. Also, this scales investors, women supporting women out of Melbourne who are two grant organisations.

You've spoken a little bit about the fund that you are currently raising Lisa. Tell us more about that and the purpose of doing that?

The purpose of it is to provide equity seed and Series A (so early stage funding), to organisations looking for say $300,000 upwards to scale up. These organisations are already established, they've probably got some revenue, great business models, cashflow forecasts, et cetera.

The reason why we're doing it is because it doesn't exist in Queensland. There’s a couple in Australia, but we see that big gap of where organisations go next after they've maybe had some grants, they've done the family and friends, they've found a high net worth. Where did they go next?

We need this in our ecosystem in Australia. Our fund is opening officially in March, but please, anybody interested come and talk to us at ImpaQt Fund before that. The reason why I do it is because just like what everybody has said, I love what Camille, and everyone said of how do we create social impact? If we're not growing small, for-purpose businesses, like ones that you see Tom at Impact Boom as they move, if we're not helping to grow and scale them with the right funding, they're not going to go anywhere.

Great perspectives, Lisa. Thanks for sharing those.

Camille, you're in the process of building a tech platform and a community for ethical and environmental investment. What have you learned or what insights do you have on how women typically invest, and how are you seeking to help people do this in a way that helps our planet?

[Camille Socquet-Clerc] I'm going to share something that everyone suspects, and then I'm going to try to debunk it. It is said that women are less inclined to taking risks. What is true is that they're perhaps more goals orientated when they invest.

But there's an interesting study that has been done by the German Institute for Economic Research last year that found that 38% of women versus 45% of men were invested in risky financial products, such as stocks. But they also found that these women had half as much to invest, and if they had more to invest, they would more likely take risks.

To point out here also, in Australia unfortunately there is still a 13.9%  gender pay gap, and I think it's important here that if we empower women to build their wealth, then we will balance things out in terms of risk appetite.

Now in terms of my experience discussing and working with female investors, what I find is that increasingly, and I'm perhaps more talking about the millennial investors, we are rejecting old ways of investing. These are financing advisers or via family traditions. Young females are seeking when investing to inform themselves first, they want to know where their money is going, and to do that, they massively turn towards the internet and towards communities. They are getting smarter and smarter. They're some fantastic initiatives right now in Australia that demonstrate these trends. I will just cite a few. There is the Ladies Finance Club and there is Verde Super, for the super segment. There's also a fantastic podcast called She's On The Money.

What those communities do is that they create a safe space similarly to what we're doing today, and women get to learn and exchange tips, and they get bolder and bolder in their approach to finance. I think those are my humble learnings along the way.

Really interesting learnings there Camille and those perspectives you shared really align with our millennials expecting more, not just from their investments, but who they employ or who they are employed by.

They want to work for, they want to buy, they want to invest in things they can believe in. But they also don't want to compromise on the quality, on the returns; they want it all. That is why I'm creating Bloom, to really create that return. But the impact as well is really important, and companies today have no escape. They cannot cheat their consumers.

People are too educated nowadays. It's all about creating that impact and financial return at the same time.

Anna Guenther speaking.

Anna Guenther speaking.

What do you believe needs to be done to provide better support for women entrepreneurs? What can we do? Where are you seeing key gaps here?

[Anna Guenther] - Oh man. I have so many thoughts on this, and that's why I was thinking, "maybe I shouldn't jump in first!" I guess my sense is that I've definitely faced issues being a female founder, growing this company, having people not believe that I founded a tech company and not wanting to invest in me because they didn't believe we were doing it. Some of that's gender based, some of that is age based potentially as well. But, having personally faced some of these issues, I always really struggle when people say, "women need to be more confident," or, "women need to do this stuff themselves," or, "they need to be more educated", making it all about sex. I'm already doing it. That's not the issue that I'm facing right now. I'm facing the issue that people don't believe me, which is that me? Or is that society?

What do we do about it? To support women, just back them. That doesn't mean you have to invest in them, that's buying their products, that's just believing in them. It's giving them a hug when it's really hard, cause that's always really useful.

I think supporting women is probably trying to figure out how to reframe it, that it's not just be more confident. It's what is it that we can do really to support female founders and other founders that might not be what we traditionally expect to see. Alright, rant over!

It's great to hear those learnings there.

Belinda, Lisa, does that resonate with you both?

[Lisa Siganto] - I think the beauty of SHEEO, which has been like a surprise success, has been that it's been women around women, and they have a radical generosity theme, which is learn to ask and give, which most women do give, but it's that sort of cultural systemic change that really has enabled some fantastic things to come out of it, which just follows up what Anna's saying. I think there's also something about a skill area. For whatever reason, women might be being an entrepreneur, but they might have some skills, or they have skill gaps that guys might not have just because of our education system, our STEM, whatever. How do we find those skill gaps and quickly apply them? The other point is the Federal Government's got the Female Founders program, which I know Camille is possibly part of, which is great. It's fantastic, but let's have more of those supporting female founders, rewarding them and helping them along.

Thanks, Lisa. Let's cross to you Belinda. Does that make sense?

[Belinda Morrissey] - That's a really good point, Lisa, about SHEEO and also the Federal Government’s Female Founders, because I think within the impact investing scene, what we're seeing is the very clear analysis that women pay women’s wages. They employ other women.

They are actually often closer to the issues and social issues, and they're more family friendly. Interestingly, we're seeing in the Asia Pacific region a real growth in opportunities for female-led businesses to access impact investing.

You've got the Impact Investing exchange on the third series of female bonds. We're not seeing that replicated here in Australia. The Social Impact Investment Taskforce, which is a Federal Government initiative, which is fantastic and really looking at the impact investing sector and what the government should be doing. I remember way back in the early days of consultation they were saying, "please go look at what DFAT is doing, because DFAT is funding women-focused enterprises right throughout the Asia Pacific region." They're doing particular programs that are really focused.

We've got Pacific Rise, they've got an incredible gender lens investing program, which is globally starting to be acknowledged. I think if we can actually replicate some of those gender lens investing issues here domestically, then that starts to unlock and normalise that type of behaviour.

I think a lot of impact investors need that structure to be able to take those first steps, and Lisa and I talked about this earlier about the issue around due diligence, being a really big barrier quite often within philanthropy, say on the impact investing space. We know how to assess social impact, but not necessarily the financial side. Where the due diligence is done is often through a structure, like what Lisa's talking about, and that starts to simplify access. If we can build products that have generalised investment as their core component, like we have seen in Africa and throughout the Asia Pacific region, then that starts to really bring that level of products to the table that investors can then actually get on board with.

Interesting points Belinda, thanks for sharing those. We might finish with you Camille, before we see if there's any other quick thoughts that we can all add as a panel.

[Camille Socquet-Clerc] - Thank you. I would love to add two points to all the brilliant ideas and thoughts that have been already shared. I think there's two things we need to keep in mind as well, and I will talk from my experience in clean energy and clean tech, where there is a massive discrepancy between male-led businesses and female-led businesses. We're talking 10-20% female-led businesses.

There's a problem of visibility, and I think you cannot be what you cannot see. We need women to be more visible, and this is what today is all about, getting female founders a platform to be more visible, and that will inspire the next generation of founders.

I myself am very grateful for some programs or networks that I've been able to join five years ago, and truly planted a seed in my mind to become a founder. I thought maybe I can be that person too. But I can assure you that these were women that inspired me to become a founder myself. Visibility is the first point.

The second point is I think we need to redesign the ecosystem accepting founders, by being a lot more intentional. I'm talking venture capital funds; I'm talking equal accelerators.

We know that there are not enough female founders, so we have to be deliberate about it. We have to be conscious about bias when we select candidates and we have to develop programs that work for women.

At Energy Lab, which I'm really close with, we have developed a Women in Clean Tech program, and that has been co-developed with interviewing female founders interested in this space. Simple things like making it work for Mums, by doing the program from 6-8pm, and not in the middle of the day. Just being a bit more intentional.

Great points there Camille, thank you for that. We're about to wrap up there, so were there any parting thoughts, Anna, Belinda, Lisa?

[Anna Guenther] - Just start, and make it happen!

[Lisa Siganto] - I agree with Anna, it's back the women, the women who are driving the social impact, and profit for purpose organisations to create change in the world. It’s women doing it, let's back them and work out what they need.

[Belinda Morrissey] Following everything Camille said, go Camille!

[Anna Guenther] - They might not always ask for help, so just help them!

A huge thanks to all of you, Anna Guenther, Lisa Siganto, Belinda Morrissey, and Camille Socquet-Clerc. We'll certainly look forward to supporting and doing what we can to put a spotlight on the work that you're doing.




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